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58 Recycling INDUSTRY • ARALIK -DECEMBER 2007“TELEV‹ZYON TÜPLER‹ PATLAMAYAHAZIR B‹R BOMBA”“TELEV‹ZYON TÜPLER‹ PATLAMAYAHAZIR B‹R BOMBA”“TELEV‹ZYON TÜPLER‹ PATLAMAYAHAZIR B‹R BOMBA”“TV Tubes Like A BombReady To Explde”Exitcom Recycling Gmbh Genel Mudieresis0dudieresis0rudieresis0 Murat Ilgar:Exitcom Recycling Gmbh General Manager Murat Ilgar:Çevre -EnvironmentalRÖPORTAJ - INTERWIEV 59“We are growingfurther along with new breakthroughs.”“Almanya’da ?uanda yeniat›l›mlarla daha dabudieresis0yudieresis0yoruz.”lmanya’da geri dönudieresis0?udieresis0m sektörudieresis0nde faaliyetgösteren ve bu alanda Avrupa’da önemli birmarka haline gelen Exitcom Recycling Gmbh, Al-manya’da ya?ayan ba?ar›l› Tudieresis0rk giri?imcilerdenMurat Ilgar’›n kurdu¤u bir firma. Tudieresis0rkiye’nin ilkelektrikli ve elektronik ekipman geri dönudieresis0?udieresis0mtesisi olarak 2003 y›l›ndan bu yana Tudieresis0rkiye’dede faaliyet gösteren Exitcom, 2008 y›l›na girer-ken hedeflerini daha da budieresis0yudieresis0tudieresis0yor. Sektördekigeli?meler, elektronik at›kta Avrupa’da sorun ol-maya ba?layan ve Tudieresis0rkiye’yi bekleyen tehlike,Almanya ve Tudieresis0rkiye’deki uygulamalarla ile ?irke-tin yeni hedeflerini Murat Ilgar ile konu?tuk. Murat Ilgar, ba?ar›l› i? hayat›n›n yan›ndarenkli ki?ili¤i ile de tan›nan bir i? adam›. Ispar-ta’daki okul y›llar›nda futbol oynayan ve iki defaprofesyonelli¤in kap›s›ndan dönen Murat Il-gar’›n futbol sevgisi Almanya’da kuludieresis0p ba?kanl›-¤›yla sudieresis0rudieresis0yor. Murat Ilgar Avrupa’n›n önemli fut-bol tak›mlar›ndan, alkoludieresis0n ve sigaran›n yasak ol-du¤u tek tak›m olan ve 200 futbolcusu bulunanSV Damla Genç Futbol Tak›m›n›n kuludieresis0p ba?ka-n›. Hannover Belediye Ba?kan›’n›n bile her yer-de formas›n› giydi¤i futbol kuludieresis0budieresis0 ba?kanl›¤›n›nd›?›nda sporculara deste¤iyle de tan›nan MuratIlgar, en teknik boksör seçildi¤i Almanya’da?ampiyon olan P›nar Y›lmaz ve dudieresis0nya ?ampiyo-nu engelli Avni Kertmen ile dudieresis0nya udieresis0çudieresis0ncudieresis0sudieresis0 Mi-ne Kormaz’a destek veriyor.Avrupa’da oldukça tan›nan bir isim olan Mu-rat Ilgar, Almanya’da ve Tudieresis0rkiye’de elektronikgeri dönudieresis0?udieresis0m alan›nda önemli bir marka olan?irketin kurulu? gudieresis0nlerini ?öyle anlatt›: “Exitcomasl›nda Entercom olarak 1997’de ba?lad›. Bilgi-sayar ve telekomudieresis0nikasyon (bilgisayar, telefonal›m sat›m ve tamiri, Nokia, Siemens, Ericssonyetkili servis) udieresis0zerine ba?lad›. Bir sudieresis0re ?ah›s fir-mas› olarak faaliyet gösteren firmay›, 1999 y›-l›nda limited ?irket (Gmbh) yapmaya karar ver-dik. O s›rada Entercom ismi patentli oldu¤u veinternet sayfalar› dolu oldu¤u için Ex›tcom’ageçtik. Yine bilgisayar - telekomudieresis0nikasyon udieresis0zeri-ne devam ettik.”Engaged in the recycling sector in Germanyand turning out to be a prominent trademark inEurope, Exitcom Recycling GmbH is a companyset up by Murat Ilgar, an achieved Turkish entrep-reneur living in Germany. Operating in Turkey sin-ce 2003 as the Turkey’s first electrical and elec-tronic equipment recycling plant, Exitcom amplifi-es its targets on the forthcoming turn to 2008.We have talked with Murat Ilgar on the develop-ments in the sector, the peril revealed by the elec-tronic waste issue felt in Europe and expected tospread to Turkey, practices in Germany and Tur-key and the new prospects of the company.Murat Ilgar is a businessman known for his li-vely character in addition to his successful busi-ness life. The passion of Murat Ilgar, who playedfootball during school years in Isparta and misseda professional career at the eleventh hour twice,in football, survives along acting as the presidentof a football club in Germany. Murat Ilgar is thepresident of SV Damla Young Football Team, oneof the major football teams of Europe renown asthe unique club banning alcohol and smoking, andhosting 200 football players. Reputable with hissupport to sportsmen in addition to acting as thepresident of an esteemed club, the jersey ofwhich is worn even by the Hannover’s Mayoreverywhere, Murat Ilgar backs P›nar Y›lmaz whowon the title in Germany where she was voted asthe most skilled boxer, the handicapped AvniKentmen who won the global title and Mine Kor-maz who won the third rank in global competition. A very reputable personality in Europe, MuratIlgar has recounted the day of foundation of thecompany, a prominent trademark in Germany andTurkey in the field of electronic recycling as fol-lows: “In fact, Exitcom set out under the title ofEntercom in 1997. Its initial operating scope wason IT and telecommunication (computer, telepho-ne trade and repair, authorized service point ofNokia, Siemens, Ericsson). After a while, we resol-ved to transform the company, operating as anunlimited company, into a limited company(GmbH) in 1999. At that time, as the title Enter-com was already patented and had a proprietarydomain name, we switched to Exitcom and wenton IT and telecommunication again". A?60 Recycling INDUSTRY • ARALIK - DECEMBER 2007Ayn› y›l geri dönudieresis0?udieresis0m firmalar› iletan›?an Murat Ilgar, “Kendimde elek-tronik teknik eri oldu¤um için bu elek-tronik recycling olay›n› hemen kavra-d›k. Elektronik geri dönudieresis0?udieresis0m alan›n-daki faaliyetlerimize ikinci el olarakba?lad›k. Sa¤lam olanlar›n›n tamiredilip, bozuk olanlar›n parçalan›p sa-t›ld›¤› ikinci el alan›nda ticaret yapma-ya ba?lad›k. Daha sonra Tudieresis0rkiye’deve Almanya’da bulundu¤umuz bölge-de bu i?in aç›k oldu¤unu gördudieresis0k. Tudieresis0r-kiye’de ise 2003 y›l›nda ilk önce Exit-com Do¤a Geri Dönudieresis0?udieresis0m diye ba?la-d›k. ‹zmit Suadiye’deki yeri alarakelektronik geri dönudieresis0?udieresis0m tesisini kur-duk. Ayn› zamanda Almanya’da da bui?leri h›zland›rd›k. Tudieresis0rkiye’deki faali-yetlerimize Almanya’daki dan›?man-lar›m›zdan sa¤lad›¤›m›z teknik bilgi ileba?lad›k. Almanya’daki özel dan›?-manlar›m›z, recycling firmalar›, tan›d›-¤›m›z firmalar› birebir buraya ta?›ma-ya ba?lad›k. Bizim Almanya’da bilgi-sayar ve telekomudieresis0nikasyon ile geridönudieresis0?udieresis0m i?imiz vard›; burada da yinebilgisayar ve cep telefonu alan›nda i?-ler yapt›k. Bu i?lerimize bir de geri dö-nudieresis0?udieresis0m eklenince hepsini Exitcom ça-t›s› alt›nda toplamaya karar verdik vegrubun ismini Exitcom yapt›k. Alman-ya’daki bu teknolojiyi Tudieresis0rkiye’ye geti-rirken çok zorluk çektik. Bu dönemdebakanl›¤›m›z›n bize çok yard›mc› oldu-¤unu da belirtmek istiyorum. Bir çokbudieresis0yudieresis0k firma ilk önce bu olay› kavraya-mad›. Kamuoyunda bilinen hurdac›imaj›n›n olumsuz etkilerini gördudieresis0k.Asl›nda i?in mahiyetine bakt›¤›n›z za-man biz profesyonel hurdac›y›z. Dahasonra Tudieresis0rkiye’de budieresis0tudieresis0n budieresis0yudieresis0k firmala-ra ula?t›k, belediyelerle özel çözudieresis0mlergeli?tirdik. Bu alanda Tudieresis0rkiye’de çokyol kat ettik. O dönemde çe?itli birlik-teliklerimiz vard› ancak ?u anda yolu-muza tek ba?›m›za devam ediyoruz”diye konu?tu.Meeting with recycling companiesin the same year, Murat Ilgar remarked“As I am an electronic technician, wequickly got acquainted with the electro-nic recycling process. We kicked offour operations in this field as a se-cond-hand dealer and started to tradein the second-hand market where so-und devices were repaired and dama-ged ones were disassembled and soldout. Then we recognized that, this bu-siness was promising in Turkey and inGerman region where we operated. InTurkey, we first set out under the titleof Exitcom Natural Recycling in 2003.Then we acquired the premises in Iz-mit Suadiye and set up the electronicrecycling plant. At the same time, weaccelerated our efforts in this respectin Germany. We commenced our ope-rations in Turkey along with technicaladvice provided by our German advi-sors. We started to individually importour private advisors, recycling compani-es and other enterprises we know tohere. We were engaged in IT and tele-communication fields as well as recy-cling in Germany; and we also sustai-ned the IT and mobile phone businesshere too. After the recycling job was in-corporated in our business portfolio,we decided to gather them all underthe Exitcom umbrella and named thisgroup as Exitcom. We had great diffi-culties in importing this technology toTurkey. I also would like to point outthat, our ministry facilitated to us gre-atly in that period. Most of the majorcompanies could not comprehend theissue at first sight. We faced the nega-tive implications of the public imageon "scrappers". In fact, given the natu-re of the job, we are a professionalscrapper. Then we reached prominentcompanies in Turkey and devised spe-cial solutions with municipalities. Wemade a considerable progress in thisfield in Turkey. We had various collabo-rations at that time, yet we singly goahead now”. “Tudieresis0rkiye’de televiz-yon tudieresis0pleri nereyegidiyor? ‹nsanlar busoruyu bir sorsun.Bunun cevab›n›n ve-rilmesi laz›m.”“Ok, but what is thedestination of theseTV tubes in Turkey?This question shouldbe voiced by people.”“Tudieresis0rkiyede çok yol kat ettik”“We have made a remarkable progress in Turkey”??RÖPORTAJ - INTERWIEV 61Tudieresis0rkiye’deki ortakl›klar›na son vererek faali-yetlerine tek ba?›na devam etme karar› alanMurat Ilgar, di¤er orta¤›na da bundan sonraki i?hayat›nda ba?ar›lar dileyerek, ?irketin hedefle-riyle ilgili ?unlar› söyledi: “Çok yak›n bir zaman-da Tudieresis0rkiye’ye en budieresis0yudieresis0k elektronik tesisi getire-ce¤iz. Almanya’da sat›n ald›¤›m›z tesisin y›ll›kkapasitesi yakla?›k 9-10 bin ton. Tesisin de¤eriise 800 ile 1 milyon Euro aras›. Bu alanda bele-diyelerle çal›?ma yapmay› da dudieresis0?udieresis0nudieresis0yoruz. Be-lediyelere bu konuda dan›?manl›k yapmak isti-yoruz. ?u anda Hannover Belediyesi’nin dan›?-manl›¤›n› yap›yoruz. Yurt d›?› gezilerden bu i?innas›l yap›ld›¤›na dair yerinde görebilecekleri or-tak projeler yapmak istiyoruz. Onun d›?›nda ba-z› budieresis0yudieresis0k Alman firmalar›n›n elektronik at›k topla-ma, elektronik at›¤› i?leme konusunda bizimleortak projeleri var. Ayr›ca, hurdac› olarak faaliyetgösteren ancak profesyonel olmak isteyen arka-da?larla ortak çal›?mak istiyoruz. ‹leri ki dönem-de budieresis0tudieresis0n tekni¤i bize ait olmak udieresis0zere bayiliklervermek istiyoruz. Ayr›ca faaliyetlerimizle ilgiliönemli bir noktaya da de¤inmek istiyorum. Ex›t-com olarak ba?ka firmalarla kar›?t›r›lmak iste-miyoruz. Biz, Exitcom olarak 1999’da Alman-ya’da kurulduk; burada da yat›r›m›m›z› yapt›k ve?u anda ba?ka ortakl›klar›m›z› sonland›rd›k.Exitcom olarak ayn› yerimizde ayn› misyonumuz-la daha budieresis0yudieresis0k bir ?ekilde devam ediyoruz” dedi.Yeni tesisin kurulaca¤› yerle ilgili olarak daMurat Ilgar, “?u an ‹zmit’teki bizim firma yapa-ca¤›m›z çal›?malara göre budieresis0yudieresis0yebilir, kudieresis0çudieresis0lebilirveya ba?ka yere de gidebiliriz. Yani bizim için ‹z-mit ?u anda konum olarak iyi oldu¤u için bura-day›z ancak farkl› noktalara da firmay› ta?›yabili-riz. Yeni tesisle ilgili mesela Silivri taraflar›ndaçok yer bak›yoruz. Asl›nda tesisin yerini belirle-yecek olan bu i?te çok önemli olan nakliye. Birde en çok udieresis0rudieresis0nudieresis0 ‹stanbul’dan topluyorsak ‹stan-bul’a kayd›raca¤›z” ifadelerini kulland›.Resolving to terminate its partnerships inTurkey and go ahead singly, Murat Ilgar wishesluck and success in business life for his formerpartner and remarks on the company’s pros-pects as follows: “In a very short period of time,we will bring the biggest electronic plant to Tur-key. Annual capacity of the plant we have acqui-red in Germany is around 9-10 thousand tons,and the plant boasts a value of 800 thousandand 1 million Euro now. We also conceive tocollaborate with municipalities and desire toprovide them with consultancy. Now, we under-take consultancy for the Hannover Municipality.We are aspired to conduct co-projects that willgive us the opportunity to see on site the way ofdoing this business. Besides, some major Ger-man companies have co-projects with us onelectronic waste collection and treatment. Furt-hermore, we desire to collaborate with colleagu-es that act as a scrapper and wish to be profes-sional. We conceive to give out franchises. AndI would like to mention another crucial point re-lating to our operations here. We, as Exitcom,do not want to be compared to our companies.Our company was set up in 1999 in Germanyand made its investments here, and at the mo-ment we have quitted our other partnerships.We go ahead along the same path and missionmore extensively”. Murat Ilgar remarked the fol-lowing on the prospective site of the new plant,“The current plant in Izmit may be enlarged,shrank or relocated according to our operations.In other words, Izmit has a favorable strategiclocation so we are here, but we may move theplant to other destinations as well. We exploremyriad of premises in the vicinity of Silivri forthe new plant . In fact the critical factor that willbe determinant in the location of the plant istransport. And another point, if we collect thetop volume of waste from Istanbul, then we willnaturally switch the plant to Istanbul.”“Exitcom olarak1999’da kurulduk.fiu anda baflkaortakl›klar›m›z›sonlard›k”“Our company wasset up in 1999 inGermany and madeits investments here,and at the momentwe have quitted ourother partnerships.”?62 Recycling INDUSTRY • ARALIK - DECEMBER 2007Tudieresis0rkiye’de kurulacak tesisin kapasitesi ile il-gili bilgiler veren Murat Ilgar, “Tudieresis0rkiye’de geçti¤i-miz y›llarda toplad›¤›m›z at›k 2 bin ton; bununda yakla?›k 600 tonu hurdac›lardan al›nan tica-ret maksatl› at›klar. Dolay›s›yla burada toplananat›k bin 300 ton civar›nda. Bizim Almanya’dakitesisimizde yapt›¤›m›z at›k i?leme miktar› ise 3bin ton, aradaki farka dikkatinizi çekmek istiyo-rum. Ayr›ca bu rakamlarla kapasiteden de¤il ya-p›lan i?ten bahsediyorum. Kapasite ve at›k i?le-me miktar› konusunda insanlar aldat›l›yor. Exit-com’un s›rf Almanya’daki kapasitesi yakla?›k15 bin ton seviyesinde. Bu son yapt›¤›m›z anla?-malarla 8-10 bin ton toplamay› dudieresis0?udieresis0nudieresis0yoruz.Tudieresis0rkiye’de kuraca¤›m›z yeni tesiste ise 6 bin tonat›k alaca¤›z. Bu tesiste buzdolab› ve lambalarhariç aynen Almanya’daki faaliyetlerimiz do¤rul-tusunda di¤er tudieresis0m elektrikli ve elektonik ekip-manlar›n geri dönudieresis0?udieresis0mudieresis0nudieresis0 gerçekle?tirece¤iz.Elektronik udieresis0zerine her tudieresis0rludieresis0 aleti olacak olan te-sis için bir de k›rma makinesi yapt›k. Tamamenkendi Ar-Ge çal›?mam›z. ?u anda birkaç eksi¤ivar, yak›nda faaliyete geçecek. ?u anda Alman-ya’da çöp fiyatlar› ve i?çilik gittikçe a?a¤› dudieresis0?udieresis0-yor. Dolay›s›yla herkesin tesisle?mesi laz›m. Buanlamda çok ciddi bir iddia da bulunuyorum si-ze, ben bu makinenin patentini ald›¤›m zamanAlmanya’n›n her noktas›na firma açabilirim. Bumakine ile biz Almanya’da mantar gibi ço¤al›r›z.Bir di¤er makine ise, Avrupa’n›n en iyisi oldu¤ubelirtilen yine benim bir arkada?›m›n yapt›¤› la-ser monitör kesme makinesi. Bu makinenin pro-je çal›?malar› devlet deste¤i ile yudieresis0rudieresis0tudieresis0ludieresis0yor. Yak-la?›k 500 bin Euro’luk bir proje. Bize maliyeti200 bin Euro civar›nda olacak” diye konu?tu.Presenting information on the capacity of theplant to be set up in Turkey, Murat Ilgar remar-ked, "Volume of wastes we collected in Turkey inthe preceding years is 2 thousand tons out ofwhich around 600 tons are commercial wastestaken over from scrappers. Therefore, volume ofwastes collected here is around 300 tons where-as the volume of waste treatment at our Germanplant is 3 thousand. I would like to spotlight thedifference. Furthermore, what I mean by these fi-gures is not the capacity, the volume of work do-ne. People are deceived on the issue of capacityand waste treatment volume. Exitcom’s capacityin just Germany is around 15 thousand tons.With recent contracts we have concluded, we areproposing to collect 8-10 thousand of wastes.Our new plant we will set up in Turkey will receive6 thousand tons of waste. In the plant, we willrecycle all electrical and electronic equipment ex-cept for refrigerator and lamps as exactly paralle-led to our operations in Germany. We have alsomanufactured a crushing machine for the plant. Itis totally the yield of our own Research-Develop-ment efforts. It is not complete yet and will beput into operation soon. Now, waste and laborcosts progressively decline in Germany. Therefo-re, every company should go into institutionaliza-tion. I assert a very strong claim here, that is, on-ce I have acquired the patent of the machine, Ican inaugurate offices at each point of Germany.With this machine, our entity will show a mushro-om growth in whole Germany. Another device isthe laser monitor cutting machine that is top-classed in Europe and manufactured again byone of my friends. Design works for this machineare implemented under state subsidy. The pro-ject’s value is around 500 thousand Euro and itcost us only 200 thousand Euro”. “Exitcom’un s›rfAlmanya’daikapasitesiyaklafl›k 15 binton seviyesinde.”Exitcom’s capacity in justGermany isaround 15 thousand tons.“Yeni tesiste 6 bin ton at›k alaca¤›z”“Yeni tesiste 6 bin ton at›k alaca¤›z”“We will rece›ve 6 thousand tons of wastein the new plant”?RÖPORTAJ - INTERWIEV 63Almanya’daki geri dönudieresis0?udieresis0m firma-lar›n›n Tudieresis0rkiye’deki sektörudieresis0 yak›ndantakip ettiklerini kaydeden ExitcomRecycling Gmbh Sahibi Murat Ilgar, Al-man firmalarla yap›lacak ortak çal›?-malarla ilgili ?unlar› söyledi: “Almanfirmalar bizim Tudieresis0rkiye’deki tecrudieresis0beleri-mizden yararlanmak istiyorlar. Farkl›konularda Tudieresis0rkiye’de pazara gireceklerfakat elektronik at›kta bizle girecekler.Bu alanda Alman firmalar›n bizi tercihetmesinin sebebi Almanya’da kendiniispatlam›? bir firma olmam›z. Çudieresis0nkudieresis0Avrupal›lar’›n korkusu var, aç›kcas› birgudieresis0ven problemi var. Yasalarla ilgili, ça-l›?t›klar› insanlarla alakal› s›k›nt›lar›var. Bizi Avrupa’dan tan›d›klar› için gudieresis0-venleri çok. Zaten Alman firmalarla ça-l›?malar›m›z, burada i?lenemeyecekudieresis0rudieresis0nler baz›nda olacak. Metal, bak›r,plastik gibi udieresis0rudieresis0nler d›?›ndaki meselaelektronik boardlar yurt d›?›nda i?leni-yor. Tudieresis0rkiye’de bu i?i yapanlarla ilgiliçok udieresis0zudieresis0cudieresis0 bilgiler de ald›m. Hala kab-lolar› yakt›klar›ndan bahsettiler ve bun-lar budieresis0yudieresis0k çapta i? yapanlar. Hala siya-nudieresis0rle boardlarlardan alt›n ç›karanlarvarm›?. Bunlar asl›nda bilinmeyen ?ey-ler de¤il, devletin bunlar› ara?t›rmas›laz›m” ?eklinde konu?tu.“Alman bir firmay› sat›n al›yoruz”Almanya’da araba geri dönudieresis0?udieresis0mve tahta geri dönudieresis0?udieresis0m udieresis0zerine de fa-aliyet göstereceklerini kaydeden Mu-rat Ilgar, budieresis0yudieresis0me stratejilerine ili?kin?unlar› söyledi: “Almanya’da ?u andabiz çok ciddi bir yola do¤ru gidiyoruz,yeni at›l›mlarla daha da budieresis0yudieresis0yoruz. Al-manya’da yakla?›k 15 senelik lisansl›bir firman›n yudieresis0zde 85’ini sat›n al›yoruz.Bu firma ayn› zamanda otomobil geridönudieresis0?udieresis0mudieresis0 ve tahta geri dönudieresis0?udieresis0mudieresis0 deyap›yor. Otomobil geri dönudieresis0?udieresis0m ?u an-da Tudieresis0rkiye’de yap›lmak istenen bir i?.Almanya’da da bu i?i yapt›¤›m›z için bukonuda da kendimizi farkl› görudieresis0yoruz.Tudieresis0rkiye’de maddi bir beklentimizde ol-madan insanlara bu konuda her tudieresis0rludieresis0yard›m› yapmak istiyoruz. Bizim Alman-ya’da yerimiz var inceleyebilirler. Bunubiz Tudieresis0rkiye’nin gelece¤i için yapmak is-tiyoruz” dedi.Remarking that recycling compani-es in Turkey closely monitor the Tur-kish sector, Murat Ilgar, the posses-sor of Exitcom Recycling GmbH, toldthe following on their prospective co-efforts with German companies: Ger-man companies are aspired to bene-fit from our professional experience inTurkey. They will penetrate the Tur-kish market on different fields, yetthey co-act with us on the field ofelectronic waste treatment. In this fi-eld, the reason underpinned at Ger-man companies’ preference in us isthat our company has proven itself inGermany. Europeans are worried, andthere is evidently a confidence prob-lem. They feel some disturbances du-e to laws and people they collabora-te. We attract much confidence fromthe companies as they are acquain-ted with us in Europe. Besides, ourcooperation with German companieswill be limited to the products thatcannot be treated here. Some speci-fic products, for example electronicboards, other than metal, copper,plastic etc are treated abroad. I recei-ved quite upsetting news about thoseengaged in this business. They toldme that they incinerated the cables,and these are unfortunately high-sca-le enterprises. As far as I am concer-ned, there are some that strive to ex-tract gold from the boards with cyani-de. In fact, these are all obvious andthe state should explore them”.Remarking that they would enga-ge in the recycle of cars and wood inGermany, Murat Ilgar stated abouttheir growth strategies as follows:“We are moving towards a very serio-us path now in Germany. We are gro-wing further along with new breakthro-ughs. We are acquiring 85% of a li-censed company with a professionalbackground of around 15 years inGermany. This company is also enga-ged in the recycle of cars and wood.Car recycling is a highly-intended ope-ration in Turkey now. So we feel our-selves distinguished as we are alre-ady engaged in this business. We areaspired to provide any kind of supportto people in Turkey without any finan-cial concern. We have premises inGermany, they may show up, see andexplore it. We desire to do it for thesake of Turkey’s future”. Alman firmalar bizimTudieresis0rkiye’deki tecrudieresis0belerimizdenyararlanmak istiyorlar.German companies are aspiredto benefit from our professionalexperience in Turkey.“Almanlar›n tercihi EXITCOM” “Germans favor EXITCOM”?64 Recycling INDUSTRY • ARALIK - DECEMBER 2007Tudieresis0rkiye’de elektronik at›klar›n olu?turdu¤utehlikeye de dikkat çeken Murat Ilgar, bunlararas›nda patlamaya haz›r bir bomba olarak ifa-de etti¤i televizyon tudieresis0plerini örnek gösterdi. Il-gar, “?u anda televizyon tudieresis0pleri bana göre Tudieresis0r-kiye’nin en budieresis0yudieresis0k problemlerinden bir tanesi.Televizyon tudieresis0pudieresis0nde yakla?›k 2 kilogram kur?unve fosfor var. Almanya’da bizim yapt›rd›¤›m›ztelevizyon tudieresis0pudieresis0 kesme makinesinin maliyeti100 bin Euro. Bu konudaki çal›?malar öyle çokbasit de¤il. Bak›n Tudieresis0rkiye’de ise, televizyonual›yorlar, plasti¤ini, bak›r›n› ç›kart›p tudieresis0pudieresis0 oldu¤ugibi çöpe at›yorlar. Tudieresis0rkiye’de y›ll›k 40 milyonayak›n televizyon udieresis0retimi var diye biliyorum. Bu-na göre 40 milyona yak›n televizyon tudieresis0pudieresis0 oldu-¤unu dudieresis0?udieresis0nudieresis0n. Bir televizyon tudieresis0pudieresis0 10-15 kilog-ram aras› bunda da 2 kilo kur?un var. Ayr›cayakla?›k yar›m metre kare veya biraz daha azyer kaplad›¤›n› farz edin. Bunu kilo ve alan ola-rak dudieresis0?udieresis0ndudieresis0¤udieresis0nudieresis0z zaman tehlikenin boyutlar›-n› tahmin edebilirsiniz. Bunlar Tudieresis0rkiye’de nere-ye gidecek? Ayr›ca bu konuda budieresis0yudieresis0k bir prob-lem daha var. Avrupa’da biz bunlar› tudieresis0p geri dö-nudieresis0?udieresis0m yapan firmalara gönderiyoruz. Brezil-ya’da ya da ba?ka udieresis0lkelerdeki tesislere. FakatLCD ç›kt›ktan sonra ?u anda onlarda kapanma-ya ba?lad›. Dolay›s›yla maliyetlerin yudieresis0ksek ol-mas›n›n da etkisiyle ?u anda Avrupa’n›n en budieresis0-yudieresis0k problemi bu. Bunu göz önudieresis0ne alarak butudieresis0plerin farkl› yerlerde kullan›m›na ili?kin Ar-Geçal›?malar›m›z sudieresis0rudieresis0yor” dedi.Highlighting the hazard exhibited by theelectronic wastes in Turkey, Murat Ilgar poin-ted as an example the TV tubes that he ex-pressed as a bomb ready to explode. Ilgartold “Now, for me TV tubes are one of themost critical problems of Turkey. A TV tubehosts around 2 kg of lead and phosphor. Thecost of the TV tube shearing machine that weorder from Europe is 100 thousand Euro.Technical aspects of this job are not thateasy. Look, in Turkey they take over the TV,remove its plastic and copper and totallychuck it out. As far as I am concerned, aro-und 40 million TVs are manufactured annuallyin Turkey. One TV tube weighs 10-15 kg andits copper content is 2 kg. And let’s think itoccupies a space of around half sqm or less.You can imagine the dimensions of the perilwhen you think about its mass and space.What is the destination of these TV tubes inTurkey? Furthermore, there is another bigproblem here. We forward them to recyclingcompanies in Europe, to the plants in Brasilor other countries. But after the launch ofLCD TVs, they started to shut these plantsdown. Therefore, with the impact of elevatedcosts, this is the most critical problem of Eu-rope at the moment. Taking these facts intoconsideration, our Research-Development ef-forts on utilizing these tubes in different fi-elds go on”.Televizyontudieresis0pudieresis0nde yakla?›k2 kilogramkur?un ve fosfor var.A TV tube hostsaround 2 kg oflead and phosphor. “Tudieresis0rkiye’de televizyon tudieresis0pudieresis0nudieresis0oldu¤u gibi çöpe at›yorlar”‹ngilizce gelcek ‹ngilizcegelcek‹ngilizce gelcek‹ngilizce gelcek?RÖPORTAJ - INTERWIEV 65At›k televizyon tudieresis0plerine ili?kin Tudieresis0rkiye’deyudieresis0rudieresis0tudieresis0len çal›?malara de¤inen Exitcom Recy-cling Gmbh Sahibi Murat Ilgar, bu tudieresis0pleri Tudieresis0rki-ye’de imha edecek tek kurulu?un ‹ZAYDA? ol-du¤unu ancak art›k onun da almad›¤›na dikkatçekerek, “Peki Tudieresis0rkiye’de televizyon tudieresis0pleri ne-reye gidiyor? Bu soruyu insanlar bir sorsun. ‹n-sanlar televizyon kar?›s›na oturdu¤u zaman on-da 2 kilogram kur?un oldu¤unu görsudieresis0n ve yar›nbir gudieresis0n bu at›ld›¤› zaman bunun nereye gidece-¤ini dudieresis0?udieresis0nsudieresis0n. Bunun cevab›n›n verilmesi la-z›m. 40 milyon veya 30 milyon neyse bu moni-tör ve televizyonlar Tudieresis0rkiye’de nereye at›lacak?Bu piyasaya dudieresis0nya da kapan›yor art›k. Bu yudieresis0z-den Almanya’da LCD’lerin sat›?› çok önem ve-riliyor; udieresis0lkedeki budieresis0tudieresis0n televizyonlar›n temizlen-mesi isteniyor. Biz Almanya’da bu konudakiciddi firmalardan bir tanesiyiz. Çok yudieresis0kludieresis0 mik-tarda bunlardan i?liyoruz ama bu da belki 50bin, 100 bin tanedir. 30-40 milyonluk bir paza-r› dudieresis0?udieresis0nebiliyor musunuz nereye gidecek bun-lar? Bu çok önemli bir konu ve ben bunu heryerde söyludieresis0yorum. Buna mutlaka çözudieresis0m bulun-mas› gerekiyor. Ayr›ca bunlara ne oldu¤unuben anlatay›m. Koli koli tudieresis0pler gördudieresis0m ve bun-lara ne oldu¤unu sordum. Temizlik i?çilerinepara verip att›rd›klar›n› söylediler. Bu at›lan tudieresis0p-lerdeki kur?un hava ?artlar›n›n etkisiyle bir sudieresis0-re sonra topra¤a kar›?acak. Çok net bir ifadey-le söyludieresis0yorum, televizyon tudieresis0pleri patlamaya ha-z›r bir bomba. Bu zaten Almanya’da tehlikeliat›k statudieresis0sudieresis0ndedir. Bu konuda udieresis0lkemiz çokhassas bir konumda. Tudieresis0rkiye’de konuyla ilgili?öyle bir s›k›nt› var. Monitör tudieresis0pudieresis0 için gitti¤inizbir firma, udieresis0cretle alan hurdac›lar› örnek göste-rerek vermek istemiyor. Biz ona udieresis0cret ödeye-meyiz ki bunun imhas›n› yapmak zorunday›z”diye konu?tu.Mentioning about the campaigns imple-mented in Turkey on waste TV tubes, Mr. Ilgarstressed that the sole body that would destroythe tubes in Turkey was IZAYDAS, and yet itwas over, and added “Ok, but what is the des-tination of these TV tubes in Turkey? This qu-estion should be voiced by people. Peopleshould be aware of the fact when they sit bythe TV that it contains 2 kg of lead, and thinkover the destination of these tubes when theyare one day dumped. This question should bereplied”. Whether their number is 40 million or30 million, where will these monitors and TVsbe dumped? This market is being shut downaround the globe. Therefore, Germany placesgreat significance on the sale of LCD TVs andproposes to wipe out each TV in the country.We are one of those serious companies inGermany. We process abundant volumes ofsuch wastes, but this may reach its climax at50 thousand or 100 thousand. Can you thinkof a market of 30-40 million? Where will theybe dumped? This is a very crucial issue and Ivoice it everywhere. We should strictly developsolution for it. Let me tell you what happens tothem. I saw bulks of tubes and asked whathappened to them. They told me that they rec-ruited some cleaners to dump them. Lead con-tent in these dump tubes will flow into soilwith the effect of weather conditions after awhile. I remark it very clearly that TV tubes arelike a bomb that is ready to explode. As a mat-ter of fact, it is classified as a hazardous was-te in Germany. In this respect, our country isin a quite sensitive situation. Turkey sufferssuch a trouble: When you show up to a com-pany to take over their scrap monitor tubes,they refrain from handing them over with theintent to sell them out to scrappers for money.But we cannot pay any fee for it, we shoulddestroy it”. “Çok net birifadeyle söyludieresis0yo-rum, televizyontudieresis0pleri patlamaya haz›rbir bomba.”I remark it veryclearly that TVtubes are like abomb that isready toexplode.“Almanya tudieresis0pleri temizlemeye çal›?›yor“Germany strives to wipe out the tubes”?Çevre ile ilgili di¤er tudieresis0m konularda oldu¤ugibi bu konuda da her ?eyden önce insanlar›nbilinçli olmas› gerekti¤ini hat›rlatan Murat Ilgar,bir an önce elektronik at›klarla ilgili yönetmeli-¤in de ç›kmas› gerekti¤ini söyledi. Ayr›ca bualanda çok say›da geri dönudieresis0?udieresis0m firmas›na daihtiyaç oldu¤unu vurgulayan Murat Ilgar, “Özel-likle monitörlerin herkes taraf›ndan al›nmama-s› laz›m. Bunun için de gereken dudieresis0zenlemele-rin en k›sa sudieresis0rede yap›lmas› gerekiyor. Bozukbir monitörse herhangi bir hurdac› bunu alma-mal›. Yurt d›?›nda bozuk bir monitörudieresis0 hurdac›yaverdi¤iniz zaman bu suçtur. Çudieresis0nkudieresis0 bozuk, ta-mir olamayacak bir udieresis0rudieresis0nudieresis0 bile bile verirseniz buçöpe gidiyor demektir. Buna bakanl›¤›n bir ön-lem almas› laz›m. Tudieresis0rkiye’de nas›l önlem al›rlar bilmiyorumama Almanya’da bununla ilgili i?leyen bir yö-netmelik var. Bu konuda bizim yapaca¤›m›z i?,söz konusu at›klar› teslim ald›ktan sonra tesi-simize getirip, dudieresis0zenli bir ayr›?t›rmadan sonrakontrol i?lemlerini yapmak. Bu at›klar› sat›?aya da kullan›ma haz›r hale getirdikten sonra yi-ne Avrupa’daki firmam›z arac›l›¤›yla gerekli ad-reslere gönderece¤iz” ?eklinde konu?tu. Reminding of the fact that, like in all otherissues relevant to the environment, first pe-ople should be conscious, Murat Ilgar stres-sed that the regulation on electronic wastesshould immediately be issued. Further high-lighting that plenty of recycling companies arerequired in this field, Ilgar added, “Especiallythe monitors should not be purchased byeveryone. And regulations for this issue sho-uld be developed as soon as possible. Ascrapper should not take over a damagedmonitor. In abroad, it is legally a crime, be-cause if you intentionally hand over a dama-ged and irreparable product, it means it willbe dumped. The ministry should take measu-res on this issue. I have no idea on how they take measu-res in Turkey, but there is an effective regula-tion on the issue in Germany. The action wewill take here is to bring the wastes after ta-keover to our plant, systematically separateand then control it. After bringing these was-tes ready for sale or use, we will forwardthem to the relevant destinations via our affi-liate in Europe”. “Özelliklemonitörlerinherkes taraf›nanal›nmamas›laz›m”“Especially themonitors shouldnot be purchased by everyone.”“Bozuk monitörudieresis0 hurdac›ya vermek su甓Handing over damaged monitors to the scrapper ›s a legal cr›me”66 Recycling INDUSTRY • ARALIK - DECEMBER 2007?Elektronik at›klarla ilgili Almanya’daki uygula-ma hakk›nda da bilgiler veren Genel Mudieresis0dudieresis0r Ilgar,“Almanya’da ?imdi elektronik at›¤›n kapsamlar›var. Almanlar bunu grupland›r›yor; elektronik at›-¤›n kullanaca¤›n›z, i?leyece¤iniz tehlikeli madde-nin cinsine ve kapasitesine göre elektronik at›kkurma yetkisi al›yorsunuz. Çok ufak kapasitedediyelim ki bilgisayarlarla u¤ra?acaks›n›z belediye-den alaca¤›n›z bir izin bile bunun için yeterli olu-yor. Ama yok ben bu i?i ciddi manada yapaca¤›mdiyorsan›z bu sefer i?in içine lisans olay› giriyor.Bu lisansta at›k cinsine kapasiteye göre de¤i?ik-likler gösteriyor. Bu arada, Almanya’da eskidenudieresis0retici elektronik at›klar›ndan sorumlu de¤ildi. ‹n-sanlar ald›klar› buzdolab›n› atacaklar› zaman pa-ras›n› kendileri ödudieresis0yorlard›. ?imdi bu konuda ye-ni bir kanun var. Art›k Almanya’da udieresis0reticiler at›k-lar›ndan sorumlu. Bu kanunlara göre udieresis0reticilersatt›klar› udieresis0rudieresis0n ba?›na bir elektronik at›k udieresis0cretiödemek zorundalar ve bundan gelen udieresis0crette bui?i yapan firmalara da¤›t›lmakta. Yetkilendirilmi?lisansl› firmalar ne kadar udieresis0rudieresis0n geri dönudieresis0?udieresis0m i?iyap›yorsa sistemden o kadar da para al›yor veolay çözudieresis0lmudieresis0? oluyor. Dolay›s›yla bu elektrikli veelektronik ekipman at›klar›na ili?kin Avrupa Birli-¤i direktiflerinin hayata geçmesi laz›m. Böyleceoradan gelen budieresis0tçeyle bir an önce lisansl› firma-lar›n kurularak, kendi kendilerini finanse etmele-ri sa¤lanacakt›r. Yoksa ?u anki sistemle bununalt›ndan kalk›lamaz. Tudieresis0rkiye’de ba?ka tudieresis0rludieresis0 buolay› çözemezsiniz” dedi.Providing information on waste-related practi-ces in Germany, Mr. Ilgar remarks “Now, anelectronic waste has particular extents in Ger-many. The Germans classify them; you acquirepermit to set up an electronic waste recyclingplant according to the type and capacity of theelectronic waste and the hazardous substancethat you will handle or treat. Let’s say when youwill handle computers at very few capacities,even the permit you will acquire from the munici-pality will not be sufficient. But if you show yourintention to handle it as a serious job, then thelicense procedure applies. This license alsoshows variation by the type and capacity of thewaste. Meanwhile, in the past, producers werenot liable for their electronic wastes in Germanyand for example people used to pay an extra feeto dump a refrigerator. But now, there is a newlaw. Now, producers in Germany are liable fortheir wastes. The new law stipulates that theproducers should pay a particular waste fee pereach electronic product they sell, and such feesare forwarded to the companies engaged in thisrecycling job. The more the authorized licensedcompanies recycle, the more they earn from thesystem, culminating in a well-designed solution.For this reason, the EU directives on electricaland electronic equipment should be put into for-ce. So, the way will be paved for the immediatefoundation of licensed companies through thefund yielded by the system, ensuring self-finan-cing. Otherwise, we cannot bow to the currentsystem to remedy the problem. That is the onlyway of solution in Turkey”. “Üreticiler at›klar›ndan sorumlu” “The producers are liablefor their wastes”“‹nfluential for European companies”Recycling Industry Dergisi’nin yurt d›?›nda-ki geri dönudieresis0?udieresis0mcudieresis0ler udieresis0zerindeki etkiyi de anla-tan Murat Ilgar, “Çok elit bir dergi. Almanlar›nelektronikçiler derne¤inin bas›n sözcudieresis0sudieresis0 bizzat?unu söyledi: ‘Almanya’da bile böyle gudieresis0zel birdergi yok.’ Hakikaten çok ilgilendiler. Benimiçinde çok gurur verici bir olay oldu. Biz de bui?leri yap›yoruz ve yapt›k m› çok da iyi yap›yo-ruz. O anlamda bak›ld›¤› zaman onlar için deçok önemli faydal›. ?imdi Avrupa Tudieresis0rkiye’yi gö-zetliyor, bilmiyorlar; bu anlamda dergi faydal›olacakt›r. Telling the influence of the Recycling In-dustry Magazine on foreign recyclers, Murat Il-gar remarked “It is a very elite magazine. Thepress agent of the German association of elec-tronic engineers and suppliers has personallysaid ‘There is not such a nice magazine even inGermany’. They have really shown great inte-rest. That was also a proud for me. We are alsoengaged in these jobs and we are very speciali-zed. From this point of view, the magazine is al-so crucial and useful for them. Now Europe mo-nitors Turkey but they are not still aware of thepotential of your magazine. “Avrupa’daki firmalar için önemli”RÖPORTAJ - INTERWIEV 67?68 Recycling INDUSTRY • ARALIK - DECEMBER 2007Avrupa’daki oto geri dönudieresis0?udieresis0mudieresis0 ile ilgili soru-lar›m›z› da yan›tlayan Murat Ilgar, Almanya’dabir çok Tudieresis0rk’udieresis0n otomobil geri dönudieresis0?udieresis0mudieresis0 konu-sunda hizmet verdi¤ini belirterek, bu konudakiçal›?malar ve tesisle ilgili ?u bilgileri verdi: “Buotomobil geri dönudieresis0?udieresis0m i?ini çok say›da Tudieresis0rk ya-p›yor. Mesela kanunun istedi¤i her ?eyi yerinegetiren bir Tudieresis0rk arkada?›m›z var. Kurumsalla?-ma ile sorunu vard›, onu da ?imdi biz yap›yoruz.Tesisin özelliklerine gelince, bu i?leyece¤iniz ka-pasiteye göre de¤i?iyor. Tesis kapasitesi ?öylebir ?ey; mesela bizim buras› 4 dönudieresis0m bir yer.Ama siz buraya tesis koydu¤unuz an, depolamayapmay›p, h›zl› i?ledi¤iniz sudieresis0re içinde 20-30 tonbile i?leyebilirsiniz. Avrupa’da her ?ehirde oto-mobil geri dönudieresis0?udieresis0mudieresis0 yap›l›yor. Burada yinetransport öne ç›k›yor. Hurda bir arabay› getirece-¤iniz zaman buna bir maliyet ödudieresis0yorsunuz. Çudieresis0n-kudieresis0 onu bir yerlerde presleyip getirseniz ayr› bir?ey ama otomobili ilk ald›¤›n›z zaman dokuna-m›yorsunuz çudieresis0nkudieresis0 içinde ya¤lar› ve baz› s›v›larvar” dedi.Tesis olarak bak›ld›¤›nda i?lenilecek kapasi-teye ba¤l› olarak en az bir 15-20 dönudieresis0mludieresis0k ye-re ihtiyaç oldu¤unu ifade eden Exitcom Recy-cling Gmbh Sahibi Murat Ilgar, “Bunun içindekurutma denen bir kurutma sistemi var. Hurdaarac›n içindeki ya¤lar›n, sular›n al›nd›¤› bir sis-tem. Bunlar ç›kt›ktan sonra otomobilden e¤er kiikinci el yapacaks›n›z yedek parça olay› var. ‹kin-ci el kullanmak için özel maddeler al›n›yor. Mo-toru da indirilen hurda araç, preslenerek genel-de bu i?i yapan metal firmalar›na gönderiliyor.Tehlikeli at›klar›n al›nd›¤› alan ise en az 20 met-re kare olmas› gereken bir yer. O kadar budieresis0yudieresis0kbir olay de¤il o. Çudieresis0nkudieresis0 yaln›zca ya¤› çeken birudieresis0nite var, bu alan›n s›zd›rmaz olmas› gerekiyor.S›zd›rmaz alanda sadece oras› için geçerlidir.Arac› kald›r›yorsunuz, ya¤›n› çekiyorsunuz, suyu-nu çekiyorsunuz içindeki olan budieresis0tudieresis0n s›v›y› çeki-yorsunuz; arabay› kuruttunuz o zaman araba za-rars›z ve istedi¤iniz yere koyabilirsiniz. Yaln›zaraban›n ilk al›nd›¤› yerin s›zd›rmaz bir zemin ol-mas› laz›m o çok önemli” diye konu?tu.Remarking that myriad of Turks serve inthe recycle of automobiles in Europe, Murat Il-gar has presented the following informationabout the efforts and facilities in this respect:“Myriad of Turks is engaged in this car recy-cling job. For instance, I know a Turkish friendwho satisfies every detail of the requirementsstipulated by law. He had some trouble withthe institutionalization process, now we hand-le it. The features of the plant vary by the in-tended capacity of treatment. For instance ourcurrent premises is located over 4 hectares.But its operational capacity can enable you totreat 20-30 thousand tons of wastes if youavoid storage and just focus on treatment.Car recycling is conducted in each city of Euro-pe. Again the transport issue comes to the fo-reground here. You pay a particular cost tobring a scrap car, maybe you can press itdown but generally you can not touch it whenyou first take it over as it contains oils andsome other liquids”. Stating that you need a space of at least15-20 hectares for a facility depending on thetreatment capacity, Mr Ilgar added “The ove-rall system contains a drying process whichremoves the oils and liquids within the scrapcar. After removal, if you will make out a se-cond-hand product from the car, you shouldconsider the spare parts. Some special mate-rials are purchased for second-hand use. Thescrap vehicle with its engine removed is pres-sed down and then generally forwarded to themetal companies engaged in this job. The are-a where hazardous content is removed is aspace that should be at least 20 sqm, as yousee that is not big. Because there is a singleunit extracting the oil and that area should besealed. And such a sealed area is only neces-sary for this job. You lift the car, extract its oil,water and all other liquid content and then dryit up. Now the vehicle is harmless and youcan put it anywhere confidently. But the locati-on where the car is initially placed should ha-ve a sealed surface, that is very important”. “Almanya’da buotomobil geridönudieresis0?udieresis0m i?iniçok say›da Tudieresis0rkyap›yor.”“Myriad ofTurks is engagedin this car recyclingjob.”“Avrupa’da her ?ehirde oto geri dönudieresis0?udieresis0mudieresis0 var”“Each city in Europe welcomes car recyling”RÖPORTAJ - INTERWIEV 69Tudieresis0rkiye’deki at›k miktar›n› da de¤erlendirenMurat Ilgar, bunun hesab›n›n da çok kolay ol-du¤una i?aret ederek, “Tudieresis0rkiye’de 2012’ye ka-dar toplanmas› gereken hedef yakla?›k 4 kilo.Bu biraz da elektronik aletlerin Tudieresis0rkiye’ye gir-mesiyle alakal› bir ?ey. Evlerdeki her tudieresis0rludieresis0 elek-tronik alet bir ?ekilde at›k olacak. Bizim bu ko-nudaki prensibimiz bu oldu. Tudieresis0rkiye’de de yak-la?›k 80 milyon nudieresis0fus var; ki?i ba?›na da at›yo-rum ortalama 4 kilodan hesaplarsan›z 320 mil-yon kilogram (320 bin ton) at›k ortaya ç›kar.Ama Tudieresis0rkiye’deki at›k potansiyeli evimizde nevarsa bunlar›n hepsi bir at›k olacak. Alman-ya’da y›ll›k olarak ?u anda baz› yerlerde 4 kilog-ram, baz› yerlerde 8 kilogram ki?i ba?› elektro-nik at›k toplan›yor. Ama bunun ortalamas› 4 ki-lo olarak kabul ediliyor” dedi.Tudieresis0rkiye’de konu ile ilgili faaliyet gösterenhurdac›lar›n kurumsalla?mas›n›n budieresis0yudieresis0k önemta?›d›¤›n› vurgulayan Murat Ilgar, bu alanda biran evvel dernek olu?turulmas› ve e¤itimlerinverilmesi gerekti¤ini söyledi. Ilgar, “Biz bu ko-nuda dan›?manl›k firmas› kurmay› dudieresis0?udieresis0nudieresis0yo-ruz. Çudieresis0nkudieresis0 ?u anda firma say›s› yetersiz. Her?ehirde bir çok geri dönudieresis0?udieresis0m firmas›n›n olma-s› laz›m. Almanya’da mesela 300’udieresis0n udieresis0zerindefirma ve onlar›n ?ubeleri var. Tudieresis0rkiye’de 3-4 ta-ne, bu alanda budieresis0yudieresis0k bo?luk var. Bu konuda bi-ze rakip olu?turmayacak her tudieresis0rludieresis0 firmayla tek-nik aç›dan çal›?ma da yapar›z, ama niyet dudieresis0z-gudieresis0n olsun. Partner çal›?abilece¤im firmalarla x?ehirde çal›?›r›z. Biz bu konuda Avrupa’daki enbudieresis0yudieresis0k Tudieresis0rk firmas›y›z. Di¤er firmam›z da haya-ta geçti¤i zaman piyasada ciddi manada sözsahibi olaca¤›z. Dolay›s›yla bakanl›k ba?ta ol-mak udieresis0zere, bu tudieresis0r firmalar›n e¤itimlerinde deyard›mc› olabiliriz” diye konu?tu.Making an evaluation of the waste capa-city in Turkey, Murat Ilgar pointed out that it isquite easy to calculate it, and added “In Tur-key, the target capacity of collection until2012 is 4 kg per capita. It is somehow rela-ted to the introduction of electronic devices in-to Turkey. Any sort of domestic electronic de-vice will be a waste one day. That constitutedour core principle. There are around 80 millionpeople in Turkey. Say 4 kg per capita, makingup a total of 320 million kilos (320 thousandtons) of wastes appearing. But waste potenti-al in Turkey is limited to the domestic capacityof electronics. In Germany, electronic wastescollected per capita ranges between 4 and 8kg per annum. But its average is consideredas 4 kg”. Stressing that the institutionalizati-on of scrappers acting in Turkey on this issueis of great significance, Murat Ilgar remarkedthat a society should be founded and trai-nings should be delivered as soon as possib-le in this field. Ilgar added “We are conceivingto set up a consultancy company in this res-pect, because number of companies engagedis not sufficient at the moment. Plenty of recy-cling companies should be present in eachcity. For instance, there are over 300 compa-nies each with several affiliates in Germany,but it is only 3-4 in Turkey, revealing a greatdeficit. We are ready to conduct every kind oftechnical effort with any company that wouldnot compete with us, yet the good will is eno-ugh. We can collaborate with partner compani-es in any town. We are the biggest Turkishcompany in Europe in this issue. Once our ot-her affiliate is put into service, we will have ahuge voice in the market. Therefore, we canfacilitate to the training of such companies,mainly the ministerial units”. Her ?ehirde birçok geridönudieresis0?udieresis0m firmas›n›n olmas› laz›m.Plenty of recycling companiesshould be present in eachcity.“Dan›flmanl›k firmas›kuraca¤›z”“We Will set up a consultancy company”
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